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Posted on 04-04-09 19:32
If I am scanning an IP address of a server for open ports, I know I will be tracked. But I want to know how can I avoid that? And what are the precautions that I should take?


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Posted on 04-04-09 19:38
Scan using a remote host that can/may be compromised.



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Posted on 04-04-09 19:39
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If I am scanning an IP address of a server for open ports, I know I will be tracked. But I want to know how can I avoid that? And what are the precautions that I should take?

When you say that you know you'll be tracked, do really know that or are you assuming? I ask because if you know for a fact, that implies that you know how you'll be tracked. That's important information for avoidance.

But besides all of that, abstinence is the best way to avoid getting caught.


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Posted on 04-04-09 19:41
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harry_potter28 wrote:
If I am scanning an IP address of a server for open ports, I know I will be tracked. But I want to know how can I avoid that? And what are the precautions that I should take?

When you say that you know you'll be tracked, do really know that or are you assuming? I ask because if you know for a fact, that implies that you know how you'll be tracked. That's important information for avoidance.

But besides all of that, abstinence is the best way to avoid getting caught.


I m assuming that i will be caught. Actually is there any proxy settings through which I can change my ip while scanning.

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Posted on 04-04-09 19:44
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I m assuming that i will be caught. Actually is there any proxy settings through which I can change my ip while scanning.


Don't use a proxy you don't have root access to, you can't delete the logs and such.

Get a remote box. Connect to it (securely) and scan from there. You can chain a few remote boxen for the maximum effect.



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Posted on 04-04-09 20:11
So I should get a remote box and connect to it, then I guess the IP address of the box will be logged. Right?
Correct me if I am wrong?

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Posted on 04-04-09 20:18
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So I should get a remote box and connect to it, then I guess the IP address of the box will be logged. Right?
Correct me if I am wrong?



Not sure why you need to perform portscans when you don't even understand the basics of tcp/ip and computer networks.

gtfo.



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Posted on 04-04-09 20:18
Nice picture. Grin

If you have a proxy that you run it through, of course the proxy's IP will be logged.


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Posted on 04-04-09 20:18
Actually I am learning and I want to be safe. So what if my posts sounds noobish but the important thing is I want to learn.
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Posted on 04-04-09 21:29
If you want to be safe, try it on a computer where you have permission to scan it.


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Posted on 04-04-09 23:07
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Scan using a remote host that can/may be compromised.


My thoughts exactly upon entering this thread. This post gets a thumbs up.
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Posted on 05-04-09 06:30
Now if suppose I am using a remote host to scan a network and then the IP address of that remote host will go to the server but then also the remote host belongs to me so whats the difference in using a remote host and my main box.
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Now if suppose I am using a remote host to scan a network and then the IP address of that remote host will go to the server but then also the remote host belongs to me so whats the difference in using a remote host and my main box.


Depends on what encryption you use, and how well you can obscure -and- secure your packets.



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Posted on 05-04-09 07:53
I think he's asking what the difference is in using his computer vs using one of his other computers as a remote host. There is no difference. What you need is another computer that's prefferably not yours. Get it?


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Posted on 05-04-09 21:57
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Now if suppose I am using a remote host to scan a network and then the IP address of that remote host will go to the server but then also the remote host belongs to me so whats the difference in using a remote host and my main box.


Did you really just say that? This is a hacking forum, and you can't put two and two together? We're not here to hold your hand and spell everything out for you, we're here to point each other in the right direction, but the actual THINKING and LEARNING you have to do on your own.


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Posted on 06-04-09 15:00
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Now if suppose I am using a remote host to scan a network and then the IP address of that remote host will go to the server but then also the remote host belongs to me so whats the difference in using a remote host and my main box.


Did you really just say that? This is a hacking forum, and you can't put two and two together? We're not here to hold your hand and spell everything out for you, we're here to point each other in the right direction, but the actual THINKING and LEARNING you have to do on your own.


NO I don't want you to held my hand and cross me the road, not from anyone here I want it. I want to do it on my own, but I just want to take precautions because I don't want to be get caught.
So I was just asking for some tips before going for the real action.
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So I was just asking for some tips before going for the real action.


You did the right thing, don't worry about what others people say, the important thing is to learn.


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Posted on 06-04-09 17:18
Isn't there an possibility that you can fake your own mac / ip address so you can't be traced?

Like faking your mac / ip with an existed mac / ip address in the network.


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Posted on 07-04-09 12:52
Just use stealth scanning, chances are they won't care / won't notice you if you use stealth scan... If you compromise the server, you can always just overwrite the logs with pseudo-data anyway.