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Posted on 21-12-07 22:00
Would it be possible to DoS most of the internet name servers causing anyone who didn't know what an IP was to lose access to all websites? I know it sounds profound and quite crazy, but think about it. If we had enough computers to take out every well known name server, then nothing would work.. Or is there a local DNS that would cache it until everything is up and running again? Not proposing anything, just want to hear everyones thoughts on the subject... And please don't try to lecture me on anything, because thats not what I'm looking for. Just your opinion and imagination.


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Posted on 21-12-07 22:14
Yes, it's possible, and it's been brought up many times before.
Good luck.
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Posted on 21-12-07 22:28
Use a netbot Grin
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Posted on 21-12-07 23:03
ive heard of people using botnets to take down lots of nameservers at simultaneously, but not all of them..

you'd need a lot of computers...


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Posted on 21-12-07 23:41
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ive heard of people using botnets to take down lots of nameservers at simultaneously, but not all of them..

you'd need a lot of computers...



Or a code/program that will send it's self out to different computers/servers etc etc automatically. It doesn't even have to be automatic, you just need to trick lots of people/computers/servers into running the same code at the same time, it's just easier if your code has a built in mechanism to distribute it's self. Hence the term bot Pfft
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Posted on 21-12-07 23:44
i know what a botnet is...

i meant you'd need alot of computers in the botnet.


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Posted on 21-12-07 23:49
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i know what a botnet is...

i meant you'd need alot of computers in the botnet.



Lol I'd hate to say this, but it's easy to distribute them. Try IRC warez chats...lol. P2P file sharing programs and torrents work well too. The tricky part is getting your code to not look malicious to virus scanning programs Pfft
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Posted on 21-12-07 23:54
but to take out every single nameserver on the internet?

you would need a lot of computers.

spam processing using a botnet, yes. DDoS on a couple of sites, yes. But every single nameserver?

there is a set of backbone routers, if im not mistaken, so if you could take them down you would screw stuff up.. but EVERY single nameserver?

think about it.


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Posted on 22-12-07 03:25
I never proposed anything, and you're right.. It hasn't been done, but it could be. And doing something like that and actually succeeding in its entirely would be more than amazing. I never said I was going to do it, but actually seeing someone do it in the future, in my opinion, would be legendary. I just wanted to hear everyones thoughts on the subject and I have what I wanted. So thank you everyone.


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Posted on 22-12-07 04:30
shabouwcaw wrote:
but to take out every single nameserver on the internet?

you would need a lot of computers.

spam processing using a botnet, yes. DDoS on a couple of sites, yes. But every single nameserver?

there is a set of backbone routers, if im not mistaken, so if you could take them down you would screw stuff up.. but EVERY single nameserver?

think about it.



Lol, this is kinda getting me thinking. I mean, I know you could set up a botnet to do like a multidimensional array, where it continues to make bots on every host it's on at a set time and fires all the dimensions off at the same time in a loop, if you could get something like that on a massive amount of computers to do it all at a set time, you might be able to do some sort of damage. But that would take insanely skilled coding skills so that the host wouldn't just instantly crash as it continued creating dimensions or layers. Idk it would take something pretty massive, you actually would probably need to do one for each server, and each one would have to be on a massive scale like I've described to notice anything at all.
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Posted on 22-12-07 08:52
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Or a code/program that will send it's self out to different computers/servers etc etc automatically. It doesn't even have to be automatic, you just need to trick lots of people/computers/servers into running the same code at the same time, it's just easier if your code has a built in mechanism to distribute it's self. Hence the term bot Pfft


Would be called DDoS then. Pfft


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Posted on 22-12-07 14:30
it has been tried by people far better than you will likely ever be, don't bother thinking about it.


i dont want to do it, its the most retarded piece of conjecture i have ever heard of. but its IS an interesting mental exercise. its called thinking and i suggest you try it sometime.

also how exactly do you know how good i am? i could be on the verge of discovering AI and your only perspective is how many points ive got on the challanges and what i post in the forums. im obviously not, but thats not the point, your judging me and you dont even know me, the irony being, im now judging you by that fact.

as for not thinking about things like this, people are told everyday what they can and cannot think about, the beauty of the internet is i can think, post and do WHATEVER i damn well please. i may get caught, if its illegal but i can still do it, and if your good enough you wont get caught.


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Posted on 22-12-07 14:51
Anyone who thinks that "taking down the entire internet" (which is NOT what you've been talking about, mind you) is a glamorous and praise-worthy achievment deserves to be shot in the fucking face.
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Posted on 22-12-07 18:15
Well I definitely see it as a major and glamorous achievement. You have your own opinion and thats fine, I'm not going to say that you're wrong and that everyone agrees with you. I just like to imagine it, and being able to create something that powerful and extreme is more than amazing to me. I may not be the on who does it, nor do I think I'm even going to try, but I will definitely praise anyone who could pull it off by far. You said so yourself that it seems almost impossible, so then why are you getting so upset? If you don't like the discussion, then you don't have to participate in it. You sit there and knock peoples skills when you yourself may just be some punk script-kiddie who believes he's a know-it-all. You should think before you type, you don't seem that smart in my opinion. If you believe that someone should be shot in the head for thinking about it, then please give more details. You're like the kid who goes on game forums and says this sucks and nothing else.. Just some thought, sorry it's so long.


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Posted on 22-12-07 18:18
If you are power-hungry...


you will starve to death. Glory is not found in power, it's found in choice. You chose, you die.



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Widespread intellectual and moral docility may be convenient for leaders in the short term,
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[center]�Since the grid is inescapable, what were the earlier lasers about? Does the corridor have a sense of humor?� - Ebert[/ce
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Posted on 22-12-07 18:22
Very interesting, yet I'm not power hungry. I just see achievements for what they are.


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Posted on 22-12-07 18:25
jbjoker wrote:
Very interesting, yet I'm not power hungry. I just see achievements for what they are.


Achievements? Certain achievements are kind, gentle, some are feared by many, doomed to fail.

Some are ahead of us, some are left behind. Some are psycho, and some,

are crime.



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Widespread intellectual and moral docility may be convenient for leaders in the short term,
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Posted on 22-12-07 18:30
haha, do you make these quotes up or are they original? They're pretty good, but you need to realize that these are not my achievements nor do I think they ever will be. I brought up the topic for opinions and discussion, these quotes don't seem to be helping. It's like saying some decisions are bad and can hurt people while some decisions are good and can help people. You are telling us things we already know, just in different words.


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Posted on 22-12-07 18:35
You want to kill a giant with the biggest rock in the world. Moving that rock is harder than moving the giant. You are overthinking your path to success. There are multiple ways to "win", see them and walk them.



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Posted on 22-12-07 19:37
oo la la.. Whenever I hear someone calling names like "punk script kiddie," I always wonder if there is anything about them selves in that statement. At the very least it's something like their "shadow."

I have heard of people making those grandiose plans. l0pht said they could take out the internet in half an hour (I belive them), LOD took out the phone network for LA, etc. But taking out the entire phone network certainly would not be fun for the hart attack victim trying to call 911. And taking out the internet would not be fun for the fucking thousands that would lose their jobs. Causing a depression wouldnt be too fun either. Think I basically said what spy ware just said. Was this a plan for getting people to like you something?

You can never target the primus (sp?) that you can not see. Do anything you want, but when you are destructive, you just have to know who is being targeted.




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