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Posted on 21-08-08 23:25
I think that mr_cheese(or system_meltdown) did mentioned something
about a book that could explain how you do some of the challenges
but he probably noticed that website got popular and tried to keep
up the hole spirit of "work for it". if you look at the first
challenges some of them cannot be explain e.g: basic 4 find
the password why does it have to be in \ILoveToSpoilThings\ and not
\basic 4\ or \something\ or \asfdsd\ ??? i think that this
site has been created as a comercial one not really to teach
you cause if want to say that you have learned something you
have to be a member for 5 years it has been created to advertise
hacking kind of encourage you to play with the scripts "congrats,
you have won 15 points added!" to give you the illusion that youre
a hacker...but its not so bad at all you can even buy T-Shirts !!!

Thats my opion or my point of view.
Im open for any god ranked 16 years old out there who will
try to protect the "community" with their comments...

Edited by Futility on 21-08-08 23:58
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Posted on 21-08-08 23:26
Baw. Truth wrapped in whiny, erratic wrapper.

Try communicating, like, better.



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Posted on 21-08-08 23:33
Meh, you can learn something from it. Also, if they didn't advertise the sites they probably wouldn't sell many t-shirts. If they didn't sell many t-shirts, they'd not have a lot of money. If they don't have a lot of money, they can't pay for server costs. If they can't pay for server costs, they won't be able to host the site. I don't do a lot on this site, though, but I still think it could be useful to some people. It's like most challenge sites out there. They teach you the basics and you just build on that on your own. I don't know of any site that will teach you everything there is to know about computer security, programming, etc. That's because there are new things that are discovered everyday.

P.S. Sorry I'm not god ranked or 16 years old.

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Posted on 21-08-08 23:38
Quadshot wrote:
I think that mr_cheese(or system_meltdown) did mentioned something
about a book that could explain how you do some of the challenges
but he probably noticed that website got popular and tried to keep
up the hole spirit of "work for it". if you look at the first
challenges some of them cannot be explain e.g: basic 4 find
the password why does it have to be in \basic5\ and not
\basic 4\ or \something\ or \asfdsd\ ??? i think that this
site has been created as a comercial one not really to teach
you cause if want to say that you have learned something you
have to be a member for 5 years it has been created to advertise
hacking kind of encourage you to play with the scripts "congrats,
you have won 15 points added!" to give you the illusion that youre
a hacker...but its not so bad at all you can even buy T-Shirts !!!

Thats my opion or my point of view.
Im open for any god ranked 16 years old out there who will
try to protect the "community" with their comments...



Your insolence is not cute, nor is it funny- I imagine you are no longer wanted here.

Please leave, right now..

( You may consider this post an uppermost sign of disrespect. )

Fuck off~

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Posted on 21-08-08 23:38
hey mate... if you're THAT "1337 h4x0r" you're talking about, what are you doing here? this is the place for noobs, right?

The truth is that you're just a motherfucker angry about something... and since you probably can't find an answer to most challenges, you decided to write that in the forum area. I give you an advice... go and get a life... you need one fast Wink

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Posted on 21-08-08 23:40
spyware wrote:
Baw. Truth wrapped in whiny, erratic wrapper.

Try communicating, like, better.

OK
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Posted on 21-08-08 23:42
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Meh, you can learn something from it. Also, if they didn't advertise the sites they probably wouldn't sell many t-shirts. If they didn't sell many t-shirts, they'd not have a lot of money. If they don't have a lot of money, they can't pay for server costs. If they can't pay for server costs, they won't be able to host the site. I don't do a lot on this site, though, but I still think it could be useful to some people. It's like most challenge sites out there. They teach you the basics and you just build on that on your own. I don't know of any site that will teach you everything there is to know about computer security, programming, etc. That's because there are new things that are discovered everyday.

P.S. Sorry I'm not god ranked or 16 years old.

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I don't know of any site that will teach you everything there is to know about computer security, programming, etc.


I don't think anyone expects a site to teach them everything, just a site that's honest.

and I agree about the waste of time thing. Learning material quality is severely lacking, maturity is lacking, and creativity is lacking.


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Posted on 21-08-08 23:43
First off the goal, is for you to teach yourself, not to be spoon fed by someone else.

Second, it takes money for businesses to survive. Just ask yahoo or google or ...

Before you condemn a community and how it operates, become a part of that community, gain respect and make changes from the inside.

It may just be me, but that seems like a good lesson to learn. Consider that your first and last spoonful!
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Posted on 21-08-08 23:44
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Quadshot wrote:
I think that mr_cheese(or system_meltdown) did mentioned something
about a book that could explain how you do some of the challenges
but he probably noticed that website got popular and tried to keep
up the hole spirit of "work for it". if you look at the first
challenges some of them cannot be explain e.g: basic 4 find
the password why does it have to be in \basic5\ and not
\basic 4\ or \something\ or \asfdsd\ ??? i think that this
site has been created as a comercial one not really to teach
you cause if want to say that you have learned something you
have to be a member for 5 years it has been created to advertise
hacking kind of encourage you to play with the scripts "congrats,
you have won 15 points added!" to give you the illusion that youre
a hacker...but its not so bad at all you can even buy T-Shirts !!!

Thats my opion or my point of view.
Im open for any god ranked 16 years old out there who will
try to protect the "community" with their comments...



Your insolence is not cute, nor is it funny- I imagine you are no longer wanted here.

Please leave, right now..

( You may consider this post an uppermost sign of disrespect. )

Fuck off~

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THE 16 YEARS OLD(MAYBE 17) I VE MENTIONED BEFORE...

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hey mate... if you're THAT "1337 h4x0r" you're talking about, what are you doing here? this is the place for noobs, right?

The truth is that you're just a motherfucker angry about something... and since you probably can't find an answer to most challenges, you decided to write that in the forum area. I give you an advice... go and get a life... you need one fast Wink

Chess_Rock

PS: you probably need a girlfriend too.... Wink

PS2: maybe boyfriend.... Wink who knows?


YES IAM ANGRY ABOUT SOMETHING (IM STRAIGHT BTW)
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Posted on 21-08-08 23:51
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Hello there Quadshot!
Haven't you gotten the hint? 60 warn (for doing the same thing twice) and then there's me reminding you you're an arsehole on top of that. Tut, tut. You called me an idiot?


ANOTHER GOD RANKED 16 YEARS OLD...
(HAHHAHA UBERSPECT TO THE ADMINS)
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Posted on 21-08-08 23:52
i know why you angry... I'm sure it is not HBH, but psychological problems. You probably have no friends, and feel alone, and need to attack someone to feel powerful....

oh... and since it seems you're not 16-17 years old, then i can affirm you are ashamed that those 16-17 years old (i'm one of them), can do much more things than you can in front of a pc... i mean... i looked your posts, and you didn't even know to set an FTP server... wtf? where are your super leet abilities? Shock still couldn't see them...

give ya an advice... fuck off Wink oh, that's just an addition to my previous advices mate Wink
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Posted on 21-08-08 23:53
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THE 16 YEARS OLD(MAYBE 17) HE MENTIONED BEFORE...

I know tons of competent hackers on this site that are 16. I also know 20-something year old skids, just looking for a quick way to look 1337. I'm not trying to make a blanket statement of any sort, other than age doesn't matter. Here on the internet, a well-versed fourteen year old can command more respect than a twenty year old football quarterback who made it into school because he was good at catching balls and running fast.

Oh, and by the way, posting in all caps is a great way to look like an idiot.


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and I agree about the waste of time thing. Learning material quality is severely lacking, maturity is lacking, and creativity is lacking.


I LOVE THIS GUY THE MOTHERFUCKING CHOOSEN ONE WHO UNDERSTOOD WHAT IM SAYING....

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THE 16 YEARS OLD(MAYBE 17) HE MENTIONED BEFORE...


I'm sorry my friend, but ignorance is unacceptable.
I your friend and you should leave..
I'm not going to stoop down to the level of a sixteen year old and curse at the two of you. ( I also imagine you're both not over the age of 18 )

Do you really want your mum's computer to suddenly stop working?

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Posted on 21-08-08 23:56
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Code Virtuoso wrote:
THE 16 YEARS OLD(MAYBE 17) HE MENTIONED BEFORE...

I know tons of competent hackers on this site that are 16. I also know 20-something year old skids, just looking for a quick way to look 1337. I'm not trying to make a blanket statement of any sort, other than age doesn't matter. Here on the internet, a well-versed fourteen year old can command more respect than a twenty year old football quarterback who made it into school because he was good at catching balls and running fast.

Oh, and by the way, posting in all caps is a great way to look like an idiot.

WHY SO SERIOUS?
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Posted on 21-08-08 23:57
I'm sure its not wise to place "why 'this site' sucks" in the middle of the site itself.
If you have a complaint about it talk to the owner, or better yet take to some other forum.

But, since this isn't the case,
I would be surprised if no one got mad enough to actually attack you.


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Posted on 21-08-08 23:58
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Im open for any god ranked 16 years old out there who will
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I'm a god ranked person, but I'm afraid I'm a bit older than 16 years Wink I must both agree and disagree with what you say.

Some (or rather many) challenges don't follow strict rules for a certain exploit. In fact, the only one that does this is Real 14, and in my opinion it's not an as good challenge as for example JS16, the timed challenges or even Real 2.

If you only want to practice common exploits you should download Apache and some exploitable CMS:es, not search for them on HBH. The purpose of many challenges here is to learn different methods of hacking that can be used in some (but of course not all) situations. Think of it as general training, rather than only 100% realistic scenarios.

I understand what you say about that basic challenge and sure, I can agree with your opinion there, but sometimes you have to look for folders manually on a website (or through some kind of bruteforcer of course) and this could be seen as a simple, easy and very basic example of this.

Personally I think of HBH as a community where I can meat new friends, find apprentices and discuss random stuff in the forums, shoutbox and PMs. Not only a site for hacking challenges.


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