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Posted on 01-09-08 04:17
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[I] am more interested in application programming and coding hacks.

Well then I would think C/C++ would be what you need.


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Ok, so now i have a general idea of what direction to go in, where do i start, google?
But does anyone have any resource links to hand, what hardware , software should i have

Its alot to ask but i think it will be good to know.


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There's resources right here on HBH: code bank, forums, articles.

What kind of software are you asking about? You'll obviously need compilers, and debuggers are nice. I would recommend using linux for C (I couldn't find any decent C compilers for windows). Also linux has gdb which is a useful program.


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Well I have just noticed that most exploits our writted in perl. And not too long ago there emokid... 2007.


You're learning... Welcome to HBH. Smile

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I would recommend using linux for C (I couldn't find any decent C compilers for windows).


MinGW, I believe.


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MinGW works great for me... and there's no need to switch OS's just cuz you want to learn C/C++ If you have linux great but unless you really want to use linux for more than programming stick with what you got. Unless it's a Mac of course... Sad There are also great GUI for coding C on Windows like Bloodshed Dev C++.


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Yer i am planning on doing that , but i like to be multi skilled and i learnt web langauges really fast (in a few months), but am more interested in application programming and coding hacks.


A few months isn't really enough time to learn any language - even web scripting. You might learn the basics, but you really won't know all there is to know about the language(s). That is, unless you sat down for at least 8 hours a day working on the coding. I guess that's possible.

Go for C definitely as others said. Also, throw in some ASM. It will really help you when finding/exploiting vulnerabilities in applications.
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A few months isn't really enough time to learn any language - even web scripting. You might learn the basics, but you really won't know all there is to know about the language(s). That is, unless you sat down for at least 8 hours a day working on the coding. I guess that's possible.


As i said i learn fast.

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As i said i learn fast.


Fast learners don't ask stupid questions like you do. Lurk, speedy.



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Yer i am planning on doing that , but i like to be multi skilled and i learnt web langauges really fast (in a few months), but am more interested in application programming and coding hacks.


A few months isn't really enough time to learn any language - even web scripting. You might learn the basics, but you really won't know all there is to know about the language(s). That is, unless you sat down for at least 8 hours a day working on the coding. I guess that's possible.

Go for C definitely as others said. Also, throw in some ASM. It will really help you when finding/exploiting vulnerabilities in applications.


Few months isn't enough time to learn any language? I think you can learn basics in a one day ;-).

About programming: The best thing is to try many different languages and choose the best one for you (and keep it)

I think you could try ruby language, it's easy to understand and powerful (or try python or perl)

about programming try C#, C, C++

P.S. very important thing: learn batch scripting


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MinGW works great for me... and there's no need to switch OS's just cuz you want to learn C/C++ If you have linux great but unless you really want to use linux for more than programming stick with what you got. Unless it's a Mac of course... Sad There are also great GUI for coding C on Windows like Bloodshed Dev C++.

Well I had a second computer laying around, plus most of my labs I had to do were written for linux computers (they had little utility programs that only worked with linux), so it was the best option for me.

@OP - I dont know much about C# other than the fact that it's getting used a lot lately for making games. I'd say learn C++ and then look into C. They're pretty similar, so you wont have to worry about learning two different syntaxes.


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Fast learners don't ask stupid questions like you do. Lurk, speedy.


Its not stupid, and you wouldnt get any where in life without asking questions.




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Fast learners don't ask stupid questions like you do. Lurk, speedy.


Its not stupid, and you wouldnt get any where in life without asking questions.



well, but asking google is more "flameless" ;-)


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There's also the other 100 threads just like this one here you could have looked through.


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There's also the other 100 threads just like this one here you could have looked through.


Then why answer the question, why not say "Search the forum"??

If ure going to complain about me asking a question , dont bother replying.


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Then why answer the question, why not say "Search the forum"??

If ure going to complain about me asking a question , dont bother replying.


Can you shut up?



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C languages and Java would be good for game programming. C sharp seems to be used to make life easier with visual things. Python is used for the scripting part. Don't try to code anything worth while in assembly, just use a disassembler to look through apps you make.




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There's also the other 100 threads just like this one here you could have looked through.


Then why answer the question, why not say "Search the forum"??

If ure going to complain about me asking a question , dont bother replying.


well, to serach on the forum would be the second thing you should do (the first is to use google because google knows everything). Ynori said there are over 100 threads about your topic (and ppl who asked there were flamed like a cigarete)


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Well I'm just saying that it's getting annoying that everybody makes a new thread for this when it's all been talked about a 100 times before. How hard is it to take a look and see if your question has already been answered before asking it?


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No offence intended but

Well I'm just saying that it's getting annoying that everybody makes a new thread for this when it's all been talked about a 100 times before. How hard is it to take a look and see if your question has already been answered before asking it?


Why not ignore them then?? Simple , then it wont be annoying.


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Why not ignore them then?? Simple , then it wont be annoying.


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