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Posted on 30-03-05 19:45
lets get web wars started!

For those of you who dont know what web wars is:

it is a online hacking competition where teams compete agasint each other to hack another teams website.

Here are the rules we have so far:
Website Creation:
-Teams must create their own website
- websites must have some sort of hackable content (php fusion 4.01 / guestbook etc)
- The hackable content must be uploaded onto the site, with no external links to bravenet etc

Contest:
- Each team will attempt to hack other teams websites
- points will be awarded for how long a team can own another persons website
- points will be awarded for stopping a hack, and patching it
- teams are allowed to upload backdoors for later use
- server hacks are NOT permitted
- competition will take place over 3 days

Afterwards:
- Websites are returned to their owners and backdoors removed
- Teams must submit their hacks and exploits to Judges
- Participants are then given a list of exploits + how to patch them
- Points will then be awarded to teams
- Websites are rebuilt ready for the next event.

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Does anyone have any questions / improvements / ideas?? We're interested in your feedback!


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RE: i would like to be a judge


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Posted on 29-04-05 23:08
this is theonly1 i would like to be a web wars judge. i think could learn a hole lot from this. thank you


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Posted on 30-04-05 11:34
sure thing, i'll speak with you on AIM at some point, i'll tell you what to do etc.


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Another question about web wars. How much do I need to know to join a team and play in web wars. I really would like to participate, but I don't know if I am good enought.
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Posted on 04-05-05 17:10
you need a willingness to learn.

Webwars is designed for the weaker people to learn from the strong.

So you cna be any ability, there is something for everyone, and its a really good learning experiance.


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Posted on 14-05-05 01:45
Quick Question:

Should we put a post on the Index.htm page that allows the other teams to see what we consider 'control' of the site? Such as a user/pass directory we set up, or perhaps a guestbook... or do they just find out on their own?


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Posted on 14-05-05 10:11
you dont HAVE to plan a way to hack it. You can post a message on the index page, saying how you would like them to deface it and post theit team hash.
However the beauty of webwars is that there is not set way to hack thigs. The websites arent like a mission, you are allowed to roam free and hack it however you pelase.


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Posted on 14-05-05 17:08
Mr_Cheese wrote:
you dont HAVE to plan a way to hack it. You can post a message on the index page, saying how you would like them to deface it and post theit team hash.
However the beauty of webwars is that there is not set way to hack thigs. The websites arent like a mission, you are allowed to roam free and hack it however you pelase.


Perhaps I should re-phrase... you said there must be atleast one thing able to be hacked in .php format... so I am wondering if you mean we must have a note saying what we wish to have them attempt to hack...?

Sorry for being such a bother...

-Deshouleres


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Posted on 14-05-05 18:03
nope, you dont have to explain anything. The point of this, is to simulate hackable websites. So people have to find the exploit(s) for themselves.

Just make sure the exploit, can allow for defacements


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Posted on 14-05-05 19:24
I personally think we need a solid protocol for scoring, involving both attackers and defenders.

Attackers should recieve-

Lower points for known exploits
Higher points for unknown/custom exploits
Higher points for creative exploits
Lower points for a HAHA J00 GOT HAXD style defacement
Higher points for creative defacement, relative to the content
Points relative to the difficulty of the exploit
Very low points for ragin, (spam in forums, users, ecommerce orders, etc,)
Type of control gained, (moderation, admin, file access, database access, server access)
If Server access is gained, Bonus points, but instant ban from Web Wars if server is touched maliciously
-Bonus Points- For being sneaky about anonymity


Defenders should recieve points for-

Having known exploits
Added exploits of their own
More points for creative means of showing off the exploit
Points for site type variety, (forums, eccomerce,)
Custom web software to be hacked
Realistic scenarios
Complexity of site beyond visable level- (IE. Secrative information hidden deeply beneath the surface)



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Posted on 14-05-05 20:02
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I personally think we need a solid protocol for scoring, involving both attackers and defenders.

Attackers should recieve-

Defenders should recieve points for-



Perhaps that would be best for a later webwars, seeing as this one is still barely functional. Few people seem willing to participate actively, so I think it would be best for a later version... but good ideas.


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Posted on 14-05-05 20:35
most of what has been said above is true and decided by the judges. However the judges will decide on the amout of points given.


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RE: Urgh... another question


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In the rules you keep mentioning 'control' of a site, does that mean we must have a login point and after webwars starts can't do server-side edits, but must go through the site we made, log-in etc.?

If that doesn't make sense just give me a heads up and I will attempt to clarify.



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Posted on 15-05-05 10:36
yes your correct.

It is the WEBSITE that must be hacked. People ARE NOT to use server exploits.

By gaining control i mean either getting admin access / ftp access etc


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Posted on 16-05-05 17:07
Mr_Cheese wrote:it is a online hacking competition where teams compete agasint each other to hack another teams website.


Will the websites within the game be visible to people who arn't playing?
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Posted on 16-05-05 17:24
They're just normal websites, they are held on free webhosting servers. Everyone will be able to view them.


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They're just normal websites, they are held on free webhosting servers. Everyone will be able to view them.


What would happen if somebody got involved in the game who wasn't supposed to?


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Posted on 16-05-05 18:48
thats something we cant control, which is why we wish members, not to disclose urls to non web wars members. I doubt this will happen. And if it does, and any destruction is caused, we can always restore the website.


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Mr_Cheese wrote:
thats something we cant control, which is why we wish members, not to disclose urls to non web wars members. I doubt this will happen. And if it does, and any destruction is caused, we can always restore the website.


I'm very stupid so explain to me slowly how every body will be able to veiw the sites without the urls being disclosed to them?


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Posted on 16-05-05 20:31
they wont.... but they might get hold of the urls from other members etc.


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