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Posted on 15-07-10 07:31
Thanks alot HBH community. onejerlo's solution worked great, there have really been 2 partitions.

After clearing partition 1 and setting 0 to primary I had to formatt it again, took about 25min, but now I have 7,(.)51GB.

Another question, how did my friend or I create another partition by just formatting it or did we anything else we didn't even realise?
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Posted on 15-07-10 08:02
@ghxst:
Don't be naive.
He/she(most probably she) could have done it on purpose to mess with you.
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1.)It might have been a silly mistake while using a 3rd party software.(haha,ok).

2.)Just to mess with you he/she created a separate partition.(F**k it)

3.)He/she DELIBERATELY made a hidden partition,put an autorun script with a keylogger (Be paranoid, change your passwords!! Then shout F**k you to his/her face, kick him/her in a sensitive spot and finally ,stab him/her to death with a needle/toothpick:evil: )

Note:#3 is a bit problematic. No one in their right minds would set apart such a noticeable amount of space for a key logger. Then again,it could have been a combination of #2 and #3.

He/she might have been in a hurry and interchanged the letters of the partition while doing #3.

Just try to remember,detected any viruses/malicious files lately?

Side note:Trying to quit HBH but am dragged back every day.Hope they delete me soon.Smile




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Posted on 15-07-10 08:18
@onejerlo

None of that explains why he was losing space every time he formatted the drive.

OP, you never had to go through the command prompt and all if it was that simple. All you needed to do was right click on My Computer, go to Manage and then Storage Management. You could have then seen any partitions or unallocated space that might have been on it. I was assuming some kind of hardware problem since it makes no sense for you to lose space with every format.

Of course, you might have been lying or confused about losing space with every format. It makes perfect sense if your drive space isn't what it's supposed to be because some companies (like Sandisk) configure their drive in such way that it appears as two drives, one of them having some portable apps. If your OS was unable to display that, then it explains your missing space. But it makes no sense to lose space with every format.

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well, none of your options seem to fit.

I stood next to him, he just formatted it.
2. I'm sure he does know nothing about partitions and I'm sure he doesn't even have a keylogger nor other tools.

Is it possible that if I had 2 partitions on the drive, that something switched from 0 to 1 so i only had 1,47GB?

Let's say I got 2 partitions on my drive (like 5GB ) and #1 (the 1,47GB ). Partition is primary and i formatt it or restore it to factory settings, it's automatically switching to #1?

Any other ideas how to accidently create paritions? xD

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What's the company and what's your OS?

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OS is Windows 7 and the USB Drive is from PQI.



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I doubt you did what I suggested. There is no way that missing space wouldn't have been visible from the Storage Management if you could recover it through diskpart. I don't mean right click on the drive and see its properties.
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Well,according to what I understand, the first 3 times, he didn't loose any space(Before his friend fucked it up). On the third time, he got 1.57GB(After his friend was done with him). And the loss he got after that(down to 1.47GB) could have been because he changed the file system(FAT to NTFS or something).

1.)If it were a hardware error(which might have caused him to loose space after every format,It wouldn't have shown orig. size in diskpart.(Which is why I asked him that first).

2.)Why I used the Command prompt:

a.)He didn't mention his OS in the first post(Though I assumed it was Windows),I doubt that the way to access the GUI version is slightly different in each version of Windows.

b.)I hate GUI when it's not necessary.

c)It consumes more memory and time(Most of the times), it's sloppy and looks disgusting(The designers of Windows probably weren't artists).

d.)It looks cool to open up a command prompt and type in the commands fast when you are doing this for a friendWink.I usually find that people are more grateful if they think what you are doing is hard to do.Smile




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gregorian wrote:
I doubt you did what I suggested. There is no way that missing space wouldn't have been visible from the Storage Management if you could recover it through diskpart. I don't mean right click on the drive and see its properties.


just realised what u mean, sorry. Yeah right, would've been an option, you didn't tell me earlier Pfft
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Right clicking and seeing the properties works only for visible partitions. I won't believe that he couldn't see the invisible partitions using Storage Management. (This has been there from at least Windows 98, so it's not the version of Windows)


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2.)Why I used the Command prompt:

a.)He didn't mention his OS in the first post(Though I assumed it was Windows),I doubt that the way to access the GUI version is slightly different in each version of Windows.

b.)I hate GUI when it's not necessary.

c)It consumes more memory and time(Most of the times), it's sloppy and looks disgusting(The designers of Windows probably weren't artists).

d.)It looks cool to open up a command prompt and type in the commands fast when you are doing this for a friendWink.I usually find that people are more grateful if they think what you are doing is hard to do.Smile

The simpler solution is better. While you might love command line tools, it's hardly what a Windows user expects/ needs. And I haven't seen a GUI better than the Windows GUI, so I'm guessing you hate all GUI? The GUI doesn't consume more time if it's easy to use. In fact, the probability of typing the wrong command is vastly reduced since you have a visual representation with an easy to understand menu of commands. I hate the last point you mentioned! A person will probably be much more grateful if you teach him how to fix the problem on his own.

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onejerlo wrote:
d.)It looks cool to open up a command prompt and type in the commands fast when you are doing this for a friendWink.I usually find that people are more grateful if they think what you are doing is hard to do.Smile


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@ghxst:Never judge a book by it's cover.

My friends/teachers thought that I was (Quote)"Simple minded fool who's scared of everything"

I later set up a keylogger in her computer while she was standing right behind me(You can make almost ANY process invisible if you like and are prepared).

And on fare-well day I used a single tube of 10 cent quick dry gum,some chewing gum and a piece of paper(For my fare-well message) on the computer lab's lock.(LOL,the door was old-style. they had to replace the entire door:evil: ).




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lol, first you tell me to stab my friend ( :evil: ), now that ! xD
"simple minded fool who's scared of everything" xD

But seriously I'd bet 10Billions that he doesn't have any tools nor knows anything about partitions Pfft
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1.)You aren't paying attention!!Just stabbing your friend isn't that evil,you need to stab him with a needle/toothpick!!!

2.)Again, never judge a book by it's cover,loads of people made bets on me too(Wont take a football to the stomach,can't fight against **** etc,etc); but there exists a strange breed of people, who do things just because someone told them(or think) they can't (overdosing on certain medicines can convert you into themWink ).

@gregorian:Aah,I was like you once,then I realized that most people you try to teach will look at you like you are radioactive waste and say "Yeah,whatever,that's nice,but I need to go to the mall".

Then again,some others would shout at you;"YOU HACKER??!!!THAT ILLEGAL!!!Get OUT OF MY LAB!!"(LOL,My comp. teacher in 9th grade when I was caught teaching boys how to remove a block on *certain* sites and remotely open up *certain* links on girls computers:evil: ).

NOTE:what you should learn from the above is,when you use remote access tools in a local network,it becomes VERY easy to track you down.Smile

ADDED:You don't need any special tools to partition a drive invisibly,all you need is a C/C++ compiler and some knowledge of the diskpart command.




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@onejerlo, you think that's bad? In India, it's natural for teachers to expect students to do everything by the book. Anything out of the book, is illegal. They might have asked you to get out of the lab. One guy I know, got reported to the police for using free internet. In India, most places don't have wifi so you're forced to use computers that are known by the administrators. You don't have admin rights so you can't spoof anything. Usually they have some kind of remote desktop software on the system, so you're pretty much fucked if you try anything. But you can't deny that is very secure, since they don't give the slightest fuck about your privacy. https traffic is blocked most of the time!

Are you aware of the Blackberry issue in India? Indian government will ban them if they don't make the communication lines less secure. And there's nothing we can do about it. If something like this was done in the US, they would probably laugh it out of court.
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Well,I won't say the gov. is wrong.Privacy can be broken up by the gov. I have no problems.As long as they don't release/use them for their own benefit.

Besides,whenever we need to hide something,use GPG/custom made encryption!!!Smile


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