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Posted on 11-02-09 03:16
Hey everyone, it's Bmonk! I'm not that active, but I'm trying to learn more and more gradually. Ok, so enough about me, my friend recently got a Trojan that completely infected his whole laptop. The files that are on it are really important and I want to help him but I have no clue what to do. Is there any particular information that I should get about the Trojan to post here, or is there no hope for his computer?

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Posted on 11-02-09 03:29
You are using them wrong you open the package and role them on trojan's prevent infections


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Posted on 11-02-09 03:29
You are using them wrong you open the package and role them on trojan's prevent infections


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Posted on 11-02-09 03:31
if its windows enviroment, try starting the machine in safe-mode, and then get files on a usb or something


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Posted on 11-02-09 03:39
boot up a linux LiveCD and copy the files to a flash drive


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Posted on 11-02-09 14:53
Any virus can be easily removed in a matter of minutes by using hijack this and going through the files it finds and removing the ones that don't belong. (It's also a nice way to clean shit out of your box)
If your not sure what has to go, Download hijack this and post the log file and I will go over it.


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One more reason to use linux, lol Grin


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Posted on 11-02-09 18:50
Cause you could NEVER get a trojan with linux. Idiot.


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Posted on 11-02-09 19:27
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Cause you could NEVER get a trojan with linux. Idiot.


Less likely? Yes. When config'd by someone who knows his/her security? _Very_ unlikely.

I do agree, however, that you can't neglect the security side of desktop computing just because you're running a Linux distro.



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Posted on 11-02-09 19:56
Any system which is set-up properly with the right a/v, malware and spyware (Not you) protection is less likely to get infected, Whether your using windows, mac or linux. There are just as many virus infections out there for linux as well as windows.


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Posted on 11-02-09 20:00
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Any system which is set-up properly with the right a/v, malware and spyware (Not you) protection is less likely to get infected, Whether your using windows, mac or linux. There are just as many virus infections out there for linux as well as windows.


Well, that's just not true. By design, Linux is safer than Windows. It's also less targeted by virus writers because the share of Windows in the Desktop PC environment is much, much bigger.

Linux is safer by default, it can be MUCH safer is configured properly.



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Posted on 11-02-09 20:12
I would definitly disagree with that considering 95% of all servers run linux now and the popularity has brought the virus writers to draw more on them. I fix more servers with linux than personal pc's with windows.


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Posted on 11-02-09 20:21
Just to add I'm not defending windows, I use all 3 windows, mac and linux (I Have to for repairs I do) The point is your not invincible using linux and I hate people who think that.


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Posted on 11-02-09 22:04
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Cause you could NEVER get a trojan with linux. Idiot.


Stop saying bullshit, have you ever heard me say "with linux you cannot get a trojan"???? i don't think so! even because i've made some by myself...
I know that linux is not secure if you don't make it secure!
With my post i was just joking, but it seems there are people here who want to reply inappropriately, without wondering the reason of the post, or simply judging a person you don't know!
Last thing:
I never said that i'm invincible because i use linux, and especially i never said that i'm invincible!!!

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Posted on 11-02-09 22:42
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Just to add I'm not defending windows, I use all 3 windows, mac and linux (I Have to for repairs I do) The point is your not invincible using linux and I hate people who think that.


Erh, did you read my posts? I clearly stated the same thing, I just claim that by using Linux you reduce the chance of catching a virus.

I also don't really see how servers come in play when discussing viruses. Viruses have nothing to do with exploiting code of running services or w/e.

Viruses are self-replicating programs that spread without the knowledge of the computer user. Yes, it's 100% possible to design a virus that will run on Linux. No, you don't have much chance of catching one "in the wild" when using linux as desktop PC.

You hate people who think they're invincible when running Linux? I hate people who don't read/interpret my post(s) correctly.



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Posted on 12-02-09 02:03
korg wrote:
Any system which is set-up properly with the right a/v, malware and spyware (Not you) protection is less likely to get infected, Whether your using windows, mac or linux. There are just as many virus infections out there for linux as well as windows.


No there aren't, and anyway, realistically protecting windows is not done on the windows box, it's your upstream hardened firewall that will protect the damn thing.

I have evidence to back up this outlandish claim too, I've got RPC sploits for XP sp3, they affect every machine without the patch (released by the same guy as the sploit) so let's call that 99% of the market share. I can't think of another exploit that's ever crippled linux by the same numbers, closest maybe would have been vmsplice? That was only the .17 to .24 kernels.. unpatched.. with local access.. call that maybe 1% of linux installs?

In either case the problem is the user, spyware/viruses come from downloading shonky porn.

My point is that an unattended windows box is more vulnerable than an unattended linux box.

Discuss.


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Hey guys thanks for the replies. The problem is that ALL of his files are infected and I don't think it's possible for him to download anything because he says everytime that he tries, the Trojan disconnects his internet and just totally screws with his computer. But I'll try to download Hijack for him and burn it onto a cd or put it on a usb. Does anyone else have any other suggestions?
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Posted on 12-02-09 10:26
BMonk wrote:Does anyone else have any other suggestions?


Yeah, I'll shoot. Grab HD, put in external casing, connect to a SAFE Windows/Linux/BSD/whatever box.

Scan with crap.

If you're going with Windows might I suggest using MalwareBytes as initial scan. After that perhaps AVG/other scanners.

Keep an active scanner (not reactive) open while connecting the External HDD with another computer to prevent any OMG VIRUZ from spreading.



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Posted on 12-02-09 11:16
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Stop saying bullshit


Then stop posting one line phrases that have nothing to do with the forum post and no meaning.

@spyware, No where in my post was I disagreeing with you if you read it, I was simply backing it up.

Now let's start again, Nowhere did I say windows was safer than linux, I simply stated that there are viruses being made and with cross platforming with the Os's it's getting more popular.

@richo, I know what your trying to say but there are quite a few running in wild. (Quick check):
http://www.virusl. . .x&x=17&y=8
http://www.symant. . .jsp?azid=L
http://home.mcafe. . .term=linux
(I realize some of these are older but just to show they are there)

So don't take my post out of context, The infections all lye on the hands of the person behind the box. Downloading unknown links and such, E-mail, Poorly configured servers for them to be uploaded to
(Biggest problem I see) etc, etc.... An Os can't save you if your stupid. That's my point.



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Posted on 12-02-09 11:21
Oh yeah, Back to the origal post, @spyware that's another good suggestion for him to try if he has another box to connect it to.
Clean it with a/v, malwarebytes is an excellent tool I use also, then run chdsk.



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