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Posted on 26-10-06 09:57
I'm a bit confused about all the different password utilities, and would appreciate some opinions on what is the best to use, and why.

Im considering JTR or C&A, is one of these better than the other in any major way?

And also, is anyone able to vouch for the safty of either of these programs, last time i DL'd C&A Norton went psycho on me..... this was a while ago however.

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Posted on 26-10-06 20:14
i dont have C&A ... but the reason your firewal went crazy is 1. because its norton Wink ... and 2. id assume because its assuming they are viruses considering they are password crackers. idk for a fact though, i just know when i downloaded some stuff like that my firewall said it was a virus.

i know JTR is the best for DES (data encryption standard) cracking... and what ive heard about CAIN its great for everything BUT des... so i hope that answers your question

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Posted on 26-10-06 20:21
i would go with both


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Posted on 26-10-06 20:35
Accurax wrote:
I'm a bit confused about all the different password utilities, and would appreciate some opinions on what is the best to use, and why.

Im considering JTR or C&A, is one of these better than the other in any major way?

And also, is anyone able to vouch for the safty of either of these programs, last time i DL'd C&A Norton went psycho on me..... this was a while ago however.

Thanks for your help


I use them both (I disabled Abel though, its basically a trojan) I can vouch for the safety of Cain and JTR- both are great.

I use them ALOT

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Posted on 27-10-06 09:10
bl4ckc4t wrote:

I use them both (I disabled Abel though, its basically a trojan) I can vouch for the safety of Cain and JTR- both are great.

I use them ALOT

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What do you mean by "It's basically a Trojan" ? ... am I putting myself at risk in any way from having it on my pc ...... or do you just mean that it "looks" like a trojan to antivirus s'ware ?
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Posted on 27-10-06 09:21
The reason Cain is found to be a threat by Norton is because the capabilities of Cain, Cain has the ability to import system information such as user passwords and shit for you to crack. There is also a program that comes with Cain called WinPCap, WinPCap is a windows packet capturing tool. It allows you to catpure packets acrost your network. It allows you to monitor your network, test your network, and has some sniffers.
These under norton will probally be labeld as a trojan / virus. But I gurentee you will have no problems with trojans of any kind with Cain.

On other end I would sugest both.
I have only found JTR to be usefull with DES Hashes, shit you find in .htpasswd files and what not. I dont know the full functionality of JTR but I know it works best for me and DES hash's. On the other hand Cain allows much more.
Things such as
MD 5 / 4 / 2 hashes
SHA 1/2 hashes
mysql / oracle hashes "the passwords located in the mysql database under the user table"
and a bunch more, and also has alot more functions built into it, not just password cracking.
I myself have both. I like both and use both.


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Posted on 27-10-06 15:35
if you are going to use cain&abel,get rid of abel,it is a trojan like server.
just d elete the file.
it will accept incoming connections from the outside.
lose it,cain is great,and safe to use.
jtr is also safe,i prefer it over cain,although i use both.

peace.

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Posted on 27-10-06 17:20
Accurax wrote:
bl4ckc4t wrote:

I use them both (I disabled Abel though, its basically a trojan) I can vouch for the safety of Cain and JTR- both are great.

I use them ALOT

BC

What do you mean by "It's basically a Trojan" ? ... am I putting myself at risk in any way from having it on my pc ...... or do you just mean that it "looks" like a trojan to antivirus s'ware ?


Let me rephrase, it allows incoming connections like the following statement by dark sun states.



darksun wrote:
if you are going to use cain&abel,get rid of abel,it is a trojan like server.
just d elete the file.
it will accept incoming connections from the outside.
lose it,cain is great,and safe to use.
jtr is also safe,i prefer it over cain,although i use both.

peace.


Well worded!




Edited by bl4ckc4t on 27-10-06 17:20