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Posted on 07-02-09 19:24
Scenario:
We have 3 people, Mark, Tony and Sam..
Mark has full remote control over Tony and he wants to root Sams box.
Mark remotely uses Tonys computer to 'hack' Sams computer and then Mark runs a batch file to delete Tonys hard drive.
Therefore Tonys computer is no longer working so cannot trace the hacker, Mark.
Does this sound correct for a small time rooting, or overall still not enough?
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Posted on 07-02-09 19:31
what kind of a rooting scenario is it when the only thing mark does is format sams's drive? other than the log files, what did tony have in his drive? naked pics of mark's girlfriend, is it?

If he wants to remove traces that he had indeed had hacked sam, the best way is to go to the log files and remove the traces there, not remove the hard disk. It just seems like a stupid kind of theory to me.


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Posted on 07-02-09 19:58
It could be good, but too short for a rooting challenge. You would prob need stuff to add in.


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Posted on 07-02-09 20:07
chronicburst wrote:
Scenario:
We have 3 people, Mark, Tony and Sam..
Mark has full remote control over Tony and he wants to root Sams box.
Mark remotely uses Tonys computer to 'hack' Sams computer and then Mark runs a batch file to delete Tonys hard drive.
Therefore Tonys computer is no longer working so cannot trace the hacker, Mark.
Does this sound correct for a small time rooting, or overall still not enough?


definitely needs more specific, like what exploits etc. I think this wouldn't be that easy to simulate, I'd rather see some more realistic stuff, but as seen before that doesn't attract that many people


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chronicburst wrote:
Scenario:
We have 3 people, Mark, Tony and Sam..
Mark has full remote control over Tony and he wants to root Sams box.
Mark remotely uses Tonys computer to 'hack' Sams computer and then Mark runs a batch file to delete Tonys hard drive.
Therefore Tonys computer is no longer working so cannot trace the hacker, Mark.
Does this sound correct for a small time rooting, or overall still not enough?


definitely needs more specific, like what exploits etc. I think this wouldn't be that easy to simulate, I'd rather see some more realistic stuff, but as seen before that doesn't attract that many people


Yes i agree. in what way will you use mark, to hack into tony's computer? Basically, you will have to do a lot of things before this can be complete.


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Posted on 08-02-09 02:00
You guy's are taking this way out of context, I don't think he's creating a rooting challenge he's asking a simple question of:
If you want to hack someone, use another computer as a zombie computer then delete the files on it to hide your tracks. That would be yes it is done all the time.


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Posted on 08-02-09 02:11
Why yes, of course. Using encrypted tunnels you can cover your tracks. For some jobs people even tunneled through like a dozen computers, constantly switching algo methods as to confuse any security forensics/sysops/other people.



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So this not supposed to be a simulator, but reality?


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Posted on 08-02-09 02:18
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So this not supposed to be a simulator, but reality?


It's called "thinking". A neurosimulation of reality.



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Posted on 08-02-09 02:23
"neurosimulation" Someones been on merriam webster. NICE.


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"neurosimulation" Someones been on merriam webster. NICE.


Lol. Nah, I just use prefixes like they are meant to be used. I don't have a clue if neurosimulation is a "real" word or not.

Plus, Merriam Webster doesn't even have an entry for "Neurosimulation". http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/neurosimulation.



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Posted on 08-02-09 02:46
No not really but it sounded cool.


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Lol. you had me on google looking for that word to see what it means. Nut not i know its not real. And yes, it does sound cool.


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Lol. you had me on google looking for that word to see what it means. Nut not i know its not real. And yes, it does sound cool.


Seeing how that word is composed out of two widely known words, I can't even begin to understand how you need to perform a search on google to derive the obvious meaning of the word.



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Fuck it I'm gonna start using it.


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Lol. you had me on google looking for that word to see what it means. Nut not i know its not real. And yes, it does sound cool.


Seeing how that word is composed out of two widely known words, I can't even begin to understand how you need to perform a search on google to derive the obvious meaning of the word.



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neurosimulation:The ability for the brain to adapt to hypothetical situations. New word.


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That's your made up definition?


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You bet yah. Sounds good too.


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Yeah i agree. So how do you get that to go in a dictionary now?


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