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Posted on 12-06-07 18:40
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good mission, nice and easy. to put it in perspective. ive never done one bit of rooting b4 i did these and managed to do all 3 within minutes of each other. ( although yes i am aware how unrealsitic they are) :-)


It should have been worth like 5 points. All you had to know was how to change directories, run a program, and crack a hash.


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Posted on 12-06-07 18:42
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Posted on 12-06-07 19:52
Cain i think can crack NT passwords... also l0phtcrack/l0phstat

... Its not SAM hash xD.

spend a few minutes looking at the hash... and the length.

What well known hash is the same length (BTW.. its 16 chars long... and LM[SAM] is like 8)




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Posted on 13-06-07 05:10
Yeah, a friend helped me in PM, I thought it was SAM lol! Yeah, I've cracked MD5s before. lol I'm in america, no one posts until about 3AM here Pfft

Thanks, we get it now, challenge owned

Oh, yeah, I'm new to encryption (with computers anyway, I do it old-school way usually lol, matrices and everything) so what exactly is SAM? I know it's used for WIN passwords or something... what's it look like? All I know is that it has something to do with truncation and splitting and rejoining 7 or 8 byte strings...

[edit]It was SAM lol I just didn't know why it was md5. I know SAM uses some other form of encryption...[/edit]




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Posted on 13-06-07 05:24
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your rooting a WINDOWS box. if it wasnt encrypted using that particular hash then it would not be realistic and the challenge maker would possibly get comments on why he didnt encrypt the pass


uhhh do you know what hash is used within a SAM file???

[edit][color=deepskyblue]He should have tacked in some shit about creating an alogorithm to change the hash type but not crack it[/color][/edit]




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Posted on 13-06-07 06:56
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[color=deepskyblue]He should have tacked in some shit about creating an alogorithm to change the hash type but not crack it[/color]


If thats the case ... maybe he should post that algo in the JOKES section..Grin


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Posted on 14-06-07 00:43
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if you cant manually find a file on a windows system in CMD which only has about 10 directories, then god help you Pfft


I use Linux, I can do cmd lol. No, my whole problem is fixed, thanks ayr4. I knew it looked like an md5 but I had no idea why md5 would be used in a Win pass file. Now I know it's just because it was a sim lol.




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Oh, yeah, I'm new to encryption (with computers anyway, I do it old-school way usually lol, matrices and everything) so what exactly is SAM? I know it's used for WIN passwords or something... what's it look like? All I know is that it has something to do with truncation and splitting and rejoining 7 or 8 byte strings...

[edit]It was SAM lol I just didn't know why it was md5. I know SAM uses some other form of encryption...[/edit]


Heres an example, taken from one of my schools computers (neither myself nor 2 of my friends could crack it)


Administrator:500:0,25,21,C4,1D,05,4B,A2,88,41,7E,AF,50,CF,AC,29,C3:
_8A,4B,D5,C4,36,B3,81,FB,41,CF,59,75,75,AC,68,CF,09009:::


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ThorsDecree wrote:

Oh, yeah, I'm new to encryption (with computers anyway, I do it old-school way usually lol, matrices and everything) so what exactly is SAM? I know it's used for WIN passwords or something... what's it look like? All I know is that it has something to do with truncation and splitting and rejoining 7 or 8 byte strings...

[edit]It was SAM lol I just didn't know why it was md5. I know SAM uses some other form of encryption...[/edit]


Heres an example, taken from one of my schools computers (neither myself nor 2 of my friends could crack it)


Administrator:500:0,25,21,C4,1D,05,4B,A2,88,41,7E,AF,50,CF,AC,29,C3:
_8A,4B,D5,C4,36,B3,81,FB,41,CF,59,75,75,AC,68,CF,09009:::



What kind of encryption is it? I'm not familiar with any type of encryption like that :right:
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Posted on 14-06-07 04:03
It's hex... I know sam has something to do with truncation, dual 7-byte encrypted strings from a 14-byte truncated string, and reattachment (forgot the tech. term for it Pfft) of the two strings. I don't know of a decrypter that will take a sam input from user... All that i've seen take it from your computer. It would be a cool thing to have tho... gl getting the admin acct!

My school sucks, it's going to the dogs even tho we're the best around
And our network admin is actually computer literate... :angry:

They don't even let you reset the time in the library comps even tho they are about 8 hours off rofl




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It's hex...


lol, no thats actually LM. Windows may be ridiculously insecure, but not that stupid. If it was hex i would have cracked it instantly.


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Posted on 14-06-07 04:18
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It's hex... I know sam has something to do with truncation, dual 7-byte encrypted strings from a 14-byte truncated string, and reattachment (forgot the tech. term for it Pfft) of the two strings. I don't know of a decrypter that will take a sam input from user... All that i've seen take it from your computer. It would be a cool thing to have tho... gl getting the admin acct!

My school sucks, it's going to the dogs even tho we're the best around
And our network admin is actually computer literate... :angry:

They don't even let you reset the time in the library comps even tho they are about 8 hours off rofl



Lol @ hex.
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OK so I have a huge vendetta against windows and I saw letters/numbers up to "f" and in pairs... Like I said, I'm a little new to cryptography.
So what is LM?


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Posted on 14-06-07 04:31
i dont know, whats google?


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i dont know, whats google?


PWNT. LM is the lanman hash. therea re a few good crackers about for it, jtr cain and l0phtcrack most notably.


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Posted on 14-06-07 10:33
im pretty sure the encryption method is the same as Enc 7 here? well i know it is coz i done it lol ahh good ole' milw0rm


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lol i spent like 5 minutes trying to login as kevin using the password from the sam. imagining that i had to get to the protected folders and get that sourcecode.. but nop that password was the end.

i really think this challenge could be longer..


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Posted on 17-06-07 19:37
wow... read my posts... I look like the biggest n00b lol

No, im pretty good with lots of stuff, just new to encryption. I didn't know what MD5 was till i stumbled across HBH lol


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Posted on 17-06-07 19:42
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wow... read my posts... I look like the biggest n00b lol

No, im pretty good with lots of stuff, just new to encryption. I didn't know what MD5 was till i stumbled across HBH lol


WTF???? who are you talking to when you say "No, im pretty good with lots of stuff"??

i think you'll find that we'll a) judge for ourselves,

and b) not care




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WTF???? who are you talking to when you say "No, im pretty good with lots of stuff"??

i think you'll find that we'll a) judge for ourselves,

and b) not care


lmao that was funny. this guy seems desperate to try and seem good at computers and you made him look a total idiotGrin


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