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Posted on 28-03-08 15:49
I am trying to learn web programming. W3 schools seems an outstanding source and I have been studying from there with success. When looking at the HTML code for any of the challenges, I see code that does not seem to follow any conventions or is not referenced or listed anywhere that I can find. An example of this would be a <link rel='icon' .... statement. "icon" is not a valid value for the "rel" attribute of the link statement in any documentation I can find. I also see ".main-text" and other references similar to this that also cannot be found on the W3 school site. I am obviously new to this and am missing something! Any advice on what sites besides W3 will give me a more complete reference to web programming would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted on 28-03-08 16:23
I think your looking at the part where the page starts and uses css.


Debugging is what programmers do to beta software to make it take up more room on your hard drive if it is running too efficiently.


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Posted on 28-03-08 16:26
i don't know of any better than w3 but i'm glad you'd like to learn because that's what i love. Ever need any help on an app, hit me up and i'll fix it...any language.


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Posted on 28-03-08 16:47
Hey i found what you are looking at and it is css.


Debugging is what programmers do to beta software to make it take up more room on your hard drive if it is running too efficiently.


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Posted on 28-03-08 17:09
yeah, whoever started this css lets you customize that kind of thing. the particular bits of code you are looking at are not relevant to the challenges, but you will need to learn css/html/javascript to efficiently read through sources. just look further on in the source, and keep referencing w3.


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Posted on 28-03-08 17:29
yours31f wrote:
Hey i found what you are looking at and it is css.


Thanks, I now see where this is a style sheet reference.

The other reference:
<link rel='icon' ...

still does not pan out for me.
For <link rel=
I see valid parameters of:

alternate
appendix
bookmark
chapter
contents
copyright
glossary
help
home
index
next
prev
section
start
stylesheet
subsection


but no others listed. BTW this is all off of the challenge page for Basic Web Hacking #1 (lines 10, 11 & 12 of the source). Wow, isn't Firefox with the Mozex extension and "HTML Kit" as an editor amazing or what?!?!?

Anyway, the challenges are interesting and I understand and have solved this challenge (mans best friend) but I am also looking at all of the code, making sure I understand what I am seeing and trying to figure out what it does. I am new to web programming but not new to computers and software/hardware at all. Started on C-64 in early 80's, have assembly, Q-basic, V-Basic, a little C++, a little Pascal and a lot of VBA with Excel and a whole lot of PLC (industrial) programming experience.

Thanks for the replies, this seems like a great community of people who love to share knowledge and experiences.
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Posted on 28-03-08 19:22
The icon thingy is the favicon.gif you can see on the left side of URL
address in your browser. First this was implemented in FF, so my guess that this is an unofficial addition by Mozilla perhaps, not the official HTML code. That means not all the browsers will display it correctly, they can just ignore it.