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Posted on 16-08-06 00:08
I don't know if i'm allowed to post links here, so i will just say that i am from another site dedicated to finding exploits, and securing them.

My site has been getting ALOT of attention by the "police" here of late. Our chat server has been shut down numerous times, and we have gotten many personal messages from different security agencies warning us to stop doing what we are doing.

I come here wondering if their is anything i can do to make my site more secure, so that these "Police" cannot gain access to my forum and such?

If anybody has any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted on 16-08-06 00:15
If they are law enforcements there is nothing you can do at the end of the day. If they access your files without a warrant that is illegal.

Just need to ask yourself if what your doing is worth all the hassle and if it is, change your passwords everyday and keep them like 26+ alphanumerical chars. At least they won't be able to log in easily every time.


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Posted on 16-08-06 00:18
we suffer the same problem, slightly.

what you want to do is:
- make a articulate disclaimer
- have a "is this site legal" page
- and basically... stop any illegal preaching/teaching/actions etc

if your site does actually promote illegal hacking etc then ofcourse it will be shutdown, so you need to change the perception. its all about perception.

take for instance zone-h, peronsally i think its a skiddy playground and should be shutdown because of hte vast amount of destruction it encourages, however they are percieved as a innocent "we only document attacks" etc.


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Posted on 16-08-06 00:30
Thankyou for all of your suggestions.

Let me explain to you my site, call me immature, or whatever, but this is what we do:

Basically, it is a site dedicated to phishing MySpace accounts. We do this for one reason: MySpace has grown into a global giant, that is in it ONLY for the money. You can't go anywhere on that site without seeing an advertisement. And the site is sloowww as hell. It was recently sold to Fox, and it sucks now.

And members of my site that ask "dude, just give me the login to this guys myspace, i hate him" they will be banned. We do not promote random defacing of profiles. We like to hit the "big" profiles. Such as the Army's MySpace.

We believe it is wrong for big time companies to use MySpace as a place to advertise.


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Posted on 16-08-06 00:37
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We do not promote random defacing of profiles. We like to hit the "big" profiles. Such as the Army's MySpace.

Well no offense or anything but it's not to hard to understand why the police are trying to shut you downWink (look downGrin)


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Posted on 16-08-06 00:39
well with all due respect im not surprised the gouvernment wants your site taken down.

myspace has alot of money to pay them to investigate you and shut your website down. thats if myspace even does pay them, im sure with that content your asking for trouble.

becuse you are soley promoting the illegal hacking/hyjacking of large corporations user accounts.

if that is indeed your content i think it will take more than a disclaimer to help. i think you need a big big change of appreance and content. i think your idea is best kept to a small elite group of people who communicate over IRC or something, its deffo not something for a large website community to be discussing.


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Posted on 16-08-06 00:46
Yes, i understand that i am "asking for trouble.

Do you (cheese) have any suggestions for "laying low"???


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Posted on 16-08-06 01:01
well if you have a IRC server it goes without saying that you should connect to it using a bounce from now on.

and it doesnt take much work at all to get a php node setup that does it all for you, can also add simple encyrption too. really isnt hard to do, and its very sensible.


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Posted on 16-08-06 03:19
can u please pm me ur site. i would like to check it out :happy:


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Posted on 16-08-06 05:55
same here man.
thanx.


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Posted on 16-08-06 08:46
I dont mean to be a real dick, but mr. cheese; you mentioned zone-h was a skiddie playground. If you dont agree with it why is it apart of the "other" challenges? Frown


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Posted on 16-08-06 09:37
That challenge has been bugging me too. Sure, I know sites I could deface, but it goes against my ethics to do so.

Going back on topic though, as has already been said, since what you are doing is essentially illegal it's no suprise you're being watched. In a way it's a shame there is no longer a hacker underground, at least not anything close to how it used to be.


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Posted on 16-08-06 10:39
Mr_Cheese wrote:
what you want to do is:
- make a articulate disclaimer
- have a "is this site legal" page
- and basically... stop any illegal preaching/teaching/actions etc


I would like to comment this because a Disclaimer in legal term is not considered binding. This means that it is just a warning and people can choose for themselves to follow it, they're not forced to do it since it is not considered a 'true' legal document.


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Posted on 16-08-06 11:13

I dont mean to be a real dick, but mr. cheese; you mentioned zone-h was a skiddie playground. If you dont agree with it why is it apart of the "other" challenges?


it says a good political defacement. so any "i pwned you" or "j0 b33n h4x0r3d" defacements dont count etc. which zone-h is full off. i have yet to see a good political site that needed to be defaced appear on zone-h. its just full of twats who deface guestbooks and do x-server hacks with shitty "hahaha u got hacked" defacements. and having it as a challenge is the only way i can legally include a "hack a site for ethical reasons" in the challenges.



I would like to comment this because a Disclaimer in legal term is not considered binding. This means that it is just a warning and people can choose for themselves to follow it, they're not forced to do it since it is not considered a 'true' legal document.


true, but it can help towards evidence being collected and various other things in court. it wont stop them snooping arond the ste, but it can void some evidence that is collected, which is why i keep it up.


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Posted on 16-08-06 18:00
So basically, i'm really running a risk of being in "trouble".?


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Posted on 16-08-06 18:42
rofl, than I don't know why you're confused about the government onto you. Honestly, I'd ask myself if the site is worth it. Because as mr Cheese said: MySpace has ALOT of money.

And to say that you hate it and its full of people who want to make money. pssh, I hate statements like that. I think that they did a great job and it's an original idea and people like it!!

So if I can sell my site for $500,000,000 than fuck yes.
I feel people who deface myspace accounts are just looking for attention. I mean, dont get me wrong, I done a few but grew past it. Just as another challenge. I just dont feel it's worth going to jail for.

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