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Theory on optimism and pessimism

Arrow Image Theory on optimism and pessimism by system_meltdown.

Theory on optimism and pessimism by system_meltdown.

The following article was written by me and has been a theory stuck in my head for a long time, I have only just tried spilling it out into words.

I know it is short as I have no idea how to make it longer without repeating what I have already written.

This is my theory on optimism and pessimism, it is quite biased towards my opinion and is based around the question 'Is the cup half empty or half full?'. This article also follows basic rules of maths.

According to people, if you answer this question with "Half full" you are optimistic, and if you answer it with "Half empty" you are pesimmistic.

I believe different. I believe if you answer with "Half full" you are a logical thinker and will understand the rest of this article. But if you answer "Half empty" you have no clue about your surroundings.

Now first off, my answer would be half full, and the explanation for this choice is this:

If you take a cup full of water and say that's one. Then, you take half out it becomes a half of one, 0.5, which is still a real number

If your answer is half empty I can show you why it would be wrong (in my eyes).

Take an empty cup which will be zero, and try and take half away, which would be half of zero, which isn't a number.

Therfore this shows the cup must be half full as half of zero is zero which we have already decleared as empty.

I shall end my article with this statement:
"It's your choice what you answer the question with, but please understand my point."


bl4ckc4ton May 16 2006 - 19:02:34
Good article. I like it. Bl4ckC4t
system_meltdownon May 16 2006 - 19:02:54
Thanks dude Smile
BobbyBon May 16 2006 - 19:05:16
This is one of those great little articles that really has no point to it, but is great nonetheless.
system_meltdownon May 16 2006 - 19:08:05
Cheers mate, I know it has no point Grin just something I randomly thought of hehe
Displayedon May 16 2006 - 19:13:00
0.5 not being an interger can also be classed as notbeing a number, and (0/0.5=0) 0 being classed as a number.
system_meltdownon May 16 2006 - 19:15:49
Dude, it's just a theory, I don't care about your mathmatical shit
Displayedon May 16 2006 - 19:18:02
System, look, it was one little criticsm :-) and "This is my theory on optimism and pessimism, it is quite biased towards my opinion and is based around the question 'Is the cup half empty or half full?'. This article also follows basic rules of maths. " maths see ^_^ sorry dude, jsut saying :-P
the_flashon May 16 2006 - 19:29:18
Meh made me think. I always thought of the 'Half empty' being below the cup itself. I never even understood it either. Until you used numbers. Now, i totally understand and agree. Good article
ImperfectTruthon May 16 2006 - 19:40:49
I like, but really I think you could've gone more philosophical with it, which would've (suprisingly) made more sense to me. < even that made no sense... Final thought: Good, but no point was made- you could've elaborated on a more philosophical point rather than a logical one- logic takes the fun out of it.
minermonkon May 16 2006 - 19:47:26
hmmmmmm has the cup been filled to the top and then had half removed or has it only been filled half way ? would this not effect the answer to this question?
system_meltdownon May 16 2006 - 19:51:47
If you rate poor, fair enough, but at least comment and tell me why you think it's poor
6340on May 16 2006 - 22:15:12
K well, this kinda goes along with my optimism/pessimism theory. Only a little different. Actually, completely different, but the same topic. Okay, so my theory was if there's a glass of water just sitting there, it's half a glass of water. not full, not empty, just water. But if it's an empty glass, and someone fills it half-full, then it's half full. If it WAS a full glass and someone drank half, thereby emptying half of it, it's half empty. Idk if anyone can simplify this for me, cuz i'm still confused as hell. I tend to overthink things. I remember crying when i was little because i thought brown cows gave out chocolate milk and i couldn't figure out why a black&white cow's milk was white. lol.
cubeman372on May 16 2006 - 22:51:18
Its still half empty to me, whatever lable you give me Sad
HopelessRomanticon May 17 2006 - 01:15:11
Great article and I would love to see it in the forums because this is deep, and as with everything that is deep, there are many opinions on it. Also I agree with CaityT3hAw3som3, on the point of it being that if the glass was full and then half of it was emptied you would be depressed at losing this water (thats a metaphor). But if the glass was empty and you filled it halfway it would make you feel better and most likely give you a more optimistic view on life. Sorry if this confuses anyone.
knutraineron May 17 2006 - 08:17:07
I am not really sure where you were going with this. Maybe you could refine more. If you ever want to have a philosophical debate with me, let me know. Wheather we agree or disagree its all good.
seljojojoon May 17 2006 - 14:00:43
simple. drink the rest of water and it's emty. my theory.
mozzeron May 18 2006 - 07:47:15
Think of it as "half filled" and "half emptied"
Jakeon May 19 2006 - 22:41:16
When one says that the cup is half empty, they are saying "The cup is half empty out of the whole cup its self". Example: Somebody says that their gas tank is a little more than half empty; He is saying that the gas tank is a little more than half empty out of the whole size of the tank, obviously he is not referring to the whole amount as 0. The glass is half empty = 1 half of 1 whole glass (1/2) So both are 'logical' in my opinion. . . It's just a matter of viewpoint on how you would like to see it. That's my rebuttal Smile P.S.: I think of the glass as half full, just giving the others a chance Wink
-The_Flash-on June 21 2006 - 03:16:46
I think it depends on mood also. If you pissed off and cant be bothered its half empty. If you chuffed and whistling its half full. Also you can use each one to get more eg 'can i have another bag of crisps, mines half empty!'
Thucydideson July 06 2006 - 14:21:10
what if you say the glass is half full of air? Are you an optimist or a pessimist?
tolchockeron August 02 2006 - 00:30:33
beyond the point, but i just generally say the cup is twice as big as it needs to be
n30on August 28 2006 - 23:42:58
lmao, whenever someone asks me that, i drink it and say "all empty". anyway, id say that its an awesome article (hence my rating) bc it is quite close to my own theory of it.
J2383on January 27 2007 - 04:51:25
BUT, the glass is indeed half empty. One half of the glass is empty, and the other half is full. Good article that serves no purpose in anything. I enjoyed it.
revolt0163on February 28 2007 - 08:59:43
0.5 not being an interger can also be classed as notbeing a number, and (0/0.5=0) 0 being classed as a number. < wrong integers aren't the only numbers, look up rational numbers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take an empty cup which will be zero, and try and take half away, which would be half of zero, which isn't a number. but it would be a 'full' empty (and 0 full) thus half of it being half empty (zero empty would mean its full of water)Pfft
DioXinon March 15 2007 - 20:54:42
the idea in of that line is to show the contrast between them, there4 when u divide the whole ZERO by 2, u actulay not doing enything because then it will be like dividing a FULL glass, 1 , by 2, and then claiming its half empty, when its half full. in other words, if u say that an empty glass is a zero,then the half of the zero, is of course, zero. and the half of the half of the zero is also a zero..etc. nice idea 4 a convo Smile
SniperSAon March 28 2007 - 20:10:17
Great logic!
istand1337on May 01 2007 - 06:15:02
Half dead ========================== |//////////////////// |/////////////////// ==========================
thk-geoon May 10 2007 - 18:05:34
If you say half full you mean that the glass is 50% filled, if you say half empty you mean that the glass is 50% filled. Therefore the expression "half full" and "half empty" is the same thing, just different words for it. half full+half empty = Full
midoon July 23 2007 - 16:47:13
Nice one, Too Logical... And yea, you cannont take 0 from 0... rate:awesome
anzac1942on October 10 2007 - 00:43:06
the way i see it, if half a glass of water is sitting there it is half full. i can only imagine it being half empty if someone is in the process of emptying it and it is halfway to being empty. this is a good article though system.
varreonon November 04 2007 - 01:55:58
Nice. It makes sense too! You can't have 1/2 of nothing, so it really doesn't seem right!
Uber0non December 04 2007 - 11:54:13
Hmm. When I have a glass of beer which is 'half full', I'll make sure it gets empty ASAP ^^ About the article: Really makes no point, but the comments are fun to read Grin thanks man!
s3klymaon May 15 2008 - 07:14:22
6340, I think I've gotten something that is quite understandable... var half = 0.5; var new = 0; if( what'shappening == filling ){ do{ new + 0.05; while( new != half );} } elseif( what'shappening == emptying){ new = 1; do{ new - 0.05; while( new != half );} } else{ document.write("<h1>FUCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!</h1>"Wink; } Wink
s3klymaon May 15 2008 - 07:16:05
Or.. it would've been.. If I could use LINE BREAKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My705on May 20 2008 - 12:55:58
Grin Like this stuff, wnat more... It makes my mind go ... Empty? :happy:
alb00zon November 07 2008 - 11:03:25
I always question myself things like this one. Thanks for sharing, it's a good one.
Death_metal666on July 09 2011 - 13:14:11
half filled with water & half filled with air. so, glass is not
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