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RE: Python: Is there something I'm missing?

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Posted on 14-10-09 01:38
Futility wrote:
Alright, man. I admit defeat. You win. The longer this charade goes on, the more I take on the part of a complete and total asshole while you continue to look pathetic. I have nothing to gain, and you've got nothing to lose. Sounds like a good deal for me, eh? I guess that's what I get for bringing the whole thing up.

Oh wait, I didn't bring it up, did I? If you were truly as traumatized as you're letting on, you wouldn't have made the crude sexual reference in the first place, would you?. All I know is that you're not the emotiony touchy feely kind and can't help but suspect your usual tomfoolery. But hey, what does that mean coming from me? I'm just an inconsiderate prick looking to make someone feel bad over the internet.

So yes, congratulations- wallow in your victory. Respond to this with another whiny sob story. If the masses believe you, well, you've earned it. Pretending to be scarred for life is just as good as the real thing, right, Elisabeth?

Why do you have to continue being such a stuck up prick about this? You did bring the whole thing up. I just made a hyperbole because it can be understood and because I've dealt with this long enough to not have to completely hide from the topic. But you were the one making assumptions and talking like it's a good thing and that I'd enjoy such acts. I'm sorry if that was a bit too much for me at that moment but I know what has happened and I don't like hearing of that it's great from people who've got no idea of what they're actually saying. I see no victory in this as you apparently seem to do. This isn't some sort of competition, I don't understand where your childish attitude comes from to act like this.
If you think this is just some sort of joke to me, then I'd appreciate it if you'd keep it to yourself instead of using my feelings to make yourself feel funny or better or whatever you gain from being like this. I just hope you won't ever have to go through something like it, Nick.


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RE: Python: Is there something I'm missing?

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Posted on 14-10-09 01:49
I have only worked with Python here and there and so far it has extreme ups and downs. For someone new to Python (especially new to programming in general) you have to learn Python nearly inside and out before you can use the most useful modules from others. I really don't mind the tabs or switch statements since it is quick enough to build it with ifs, but the lack of data structures kills me! I wanted to make a simple program that uses matrices and I just got lost, first using a bunch of vars then looking into numPy, of which the site's tutorial was down- not sure if it still is, so that kind of discouraged my first real application of Python.

I won't give up with it but it definitely is not a priority. I am interested however in writing Google Wave apps and I would rather use Python than Java...

PS. Personally, it's always fun to make sex jokes but unfortunately things like this can happen. I really don't know what else there is to say.


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RE: Python: Is there something I'm missing?

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Posted on 14-10-09 02:52
COM wrote:
Why do you have to continue being such a stuck up prick about this? You did bring the whole thing up. I just made a hyperbole because it can be understood and because I've dealt with this long enough to not have to completely hide from the topic. But you were the one making assumptions and talking like it's a good thing and that I'd enjoy such acts. I'm sorry if that was a bit too much for me at that moment but I know what has happened and I don't like hearing of that it's great from people who've got no idea of what they're actually saying. I see no victory in this as you apparently seem to do. This isn't some sort of competition, I don't understand where your childish attitude comes from to act like this.
If you think this is just some sort of joke to me, then I'd appreciate it if you'd keep it to yourself instead of using my feelings to make yourself feel funny or better or whatever you gain from being like this. I just hope you won't ever have to go through something like it, Nick.

Listen man, I'm truly sorry. No, seriously. No jokes, no sarcasm, no games. I had absolutely no idea as to your past hardships because you're usually in such control of yourself. We've talked with one another for... months, now, and you've never showed signs of... of... I want to say weakness, but that suggests that you're battling something easy to overcome and thus would be the completely wrong word to use.

I could come up with a million excuses for my vile actions, but that would defeat the purpose of my apology. There is no real excuse. I was despicable. I was the opposite of everything I've been trying to embody within this site. But that's beside the point. I singled you out of everyone and for that, I am quite possibly more guilty than I've ever been in my life.

I can only hope that you will be able forgive for my actions and my immaturity, but will place no blame on you if it's not possible.


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Posted on 14-10-09 03:08
Futility wrote:
Listen man, I'm truly sorry. No, seriously. No jokes, no sarcasm, no games. I had absolutely no idea as to your past hardships because you're usually in such control of yourself. We've talked with one another for... months, now, and you've never showed signs of... of... I want to say weakness, but that suggests that you're battling something easy to overcome and thus would be the completely wrong word to use.

I could come up with a million excuses for my vile actions, but that would defeat the purpose of my apology. There is no real excuse. I was despicable. I was the opposite of everything I've been trying to embody within this site. But that's beside the point. I singled you out of everyone and for that, I am quite possibly more guilty than I've ever been in my life.

I can only hope that you will be able forgive for my actions and my immaturity, but will place no blame on you if it's not possible.

That was very mature of you and not something you see often nowadays. I hope you know how much that apology means to me and to anyone else in the same situation. Thank you for that and to the others who had to read this I'll apologize in both our names for opening up such a conversation in this thread.


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RE: Python: Is there something I'm missing?

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Posted on 14-10-09 03:32
Well, now that that's out of the way....

I like python for it's interpreter. It's so nice to be able to just type in some commands to check your syntax, or to be able to just do a quick calculation without writing an entire program. Plus I just like dynamic languages in general.


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Posted on 14-10-09 15:29
Well said MoshBat. As is typical though it all boils down to personal preferences and goals, whether you plan on building web sites, game developing, etc. Some languages are better suited than others for specific tasks. I think it's a good idea to learn a little of several languages to see what appeals to you. After dabbling with a few I had settled on Python and have never looked back. They do have good documentation on their site and you can write your own modules if needed.

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RE: Python: Is there something I'm missing?

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Posted on 15-10-09 00:22
MoshBat: Your code must be flawed; maybe a bug somewhere. When I tried to compile it, nothing happened, except for many errors.


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Posted on 15-10-09 01:10
Thats because it's PHP :)


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Posted on 15-10-09 06:59
clearly, when I saw the "fornicate" and "fuck" I knew it was clear nonsense.

Anyway, the reason I like Python is because it's easy to learn, (like DarkBasic) and the syntax seems clean, and the lack of {} and ;
makes troubleshooting easier.

Compared to when I use C++, sometimes I had trouble even finding the offending line before I could correct it.

I like Java as well, since I found it easy to learn, but that might have been due to my teacher who was so good at teaching it.










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RE: Python: Is there something I'm missing?

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Posted on 16-10-09 01:20
MoshBat: Your code must be flawed; maybe a bug somewhere. When I tried to compile it, nothing happened, except for many errors.


Was seeing if anyone would believe that I tried that :-p


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Posted on 17-10-09 00:21
Nope, I most likely did not. Looks like I got two suckers to believe me though :wow:


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Posted on 17-10-09 00:58
Well, that's just foolish thinking..


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Posted on 17-10-09 01:15
That makes no sense, because "think" describes what the two "suckers" are doing.


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Posted on 17-10-09 01:31
Only if you take it out of context.


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Posted on 17-10-09 01:42
I love python for the lack of ;'s and the strict indentation requirements. However, I do like using brackets aswell, so I find it good in some ways and bad in others.

As for the actual running of the code, I don't like using non-compiled languages simply for the speed issues. Although I do see the benefits of the interactive interpreter and so on, it just doesn't seem to outweigh the speed loss. I also have issues with OOP, I really prefer functional programming so that's commonly an annoyance when writing more advanced scblockedripts that rely on OOP modules.

One thing I've found I *really* love about python is it's superb error handling.


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RE: Python: Is there something I'm missing?

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Posted on 31-10-09 00:17
I think with python it might one fo those, wow moments. If it doesn't happen for you then that's no biggy, it did for me.

Alot of people who are maybe more accustomed to very structured coding, or more of a there's one way to do it atitude, don't seem to catch the python bug . Which really needs a "There's more than one way to do it" attitude, though sometimes there is *a right way to do it*.

Anyways, I love python, and hopefully one day if you keep bothering to play with it you will too, but I don't think you've missed out on too much!


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Posted on 31-10-09 00:21
buttmonkey wrote:
Alot of people who are maybe more accustomed to very structured coding, or more of a there's one way to do it atitude, don't seem to catch the python bug . Which really needs a "There's more than one way to do it" attitude, though sometimes there is *a right way to do it*.

Indeed. Once the python competition is finished and people post their code you'll be amazed by how diverse some of the solutions are.




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Posted on 31-10-09 14:45
I like Python a lot. The interactive interpreter is really cool and scblockedripts are easy to write.
I come from PHP and have a hard time focusing on learning C++. So Python is a nice alternative for me. I can write programs that'll take awhile to finish (since PHP only gets 30 seconds on my host), which was great for Project Euler.
Though I do have problems with it's syntax sometimes. I often put in {} instead of the : for block statements. And for loops took me a little while to get used to. The forced tabs don't bug me since I do it anyways. What really bugs me (no fault of Python) is that I use Notepad++ normally to write code and it uses tabs. IDLE's editor uses 4 spaces...so I often get errors if I happen to edit the same code in both editors.


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