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Password Salt

Nubzzz
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Posted on 20-01-06 02:33
I know all about salts and that they are very secure but what i want to know is is there any way to crack them to obtain the origional password? and if there is could you lead me to a program to do so?




01001110011101010110001001111010011110100111101000100000011100000111011101101110
01110011001000010010000001001000011001010010000001101001011100110010000001101001
01101110001000000111010001101000011001010010000001110100011011110111000000100000
00110101001001010010000001101111011001100010000001001000010000100100100000100001



IF YOU NEED HELP PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME

owned by system_meltdown <------ nice one system_meltdown i made it too easy ;)


Edited by Nubzzz on 20-01-06 02:34
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RE: Password Salt

Zekasu
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Posted on 19-05-06 12:31
John the Ripper handles salted hashes and encryptions.
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RE: Password Salt

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Posted on 19-05-06 18:40
With DES the salt is the first 2 characters.

With salted MD5 (the type that begins with $1), the salt is the first 11 characters.

John will automotically take care of this for you, but if you want to extract the salt by hand, its fairly easy. In Perl, you'd just do something like:

my $salt = substr($hash,0,2); *For DES
my $salt = substr($hash,0,11); *For MD5


IPB style salted MD5 hex hashes are a bit harder. You actually have to have the salt database to crack them (okay, I lied. You can dictionary attack/bruteforce the salt, or if you want to be fancy you can use colosions to break it). There is a patch for john that enables it to crack IBP hashes, if you're interested...

[edit]Okay, I'm fucking pissed. The damn forum changed a pound sign (shift+3), which is a comment in Perl as well as many other languages, into a freakin' *. I'm gonna post a complaint thread...[/edit]


"Root is a state of mind" -- K0resh

Edited by n3w7yp3 on 19-05-06 18:42
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