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TommyCat wrote:
- Lines of code (fewer lines, more points)

TommyCat wrote:
I posted a question at
http://www.hellboundhackers.org/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=15906
about the "Programming" is Challenges section in "My Profile"

And I guess I should talk about this here, since this is a suggestion.
Here goes:

We could have here on HBH a new type of challenge, something like a contest.

1. Who designs the best application that does whatever task (the task or purpose of the application would be specified)

2. There would be a deadline for application submission.

3. Points will be awarded based on:
- User friendliness - as in "ease of use"
- Speed (how fast does the application complete a specific task)
- Lines of code (fewer lines, more points)
- Graphic design (maybe this could be included in user friendliness)
- Maybe even portability

4. The applicatrion that accumulates the most points wins the contest, and the prize is a number of HBH challenge or rank points, based on the complexity of the task. There could be a system with places 1, 2 and 3..

5. I know that this could mean a big load on the administrators, but maybe there can be formed something like a jury of 10 trusty persons.. or something like that. I'm willing to actively participate on this if you guys will approve it.

Oh oh, maybe you can make a poll.. let's vote who wants this and who doesn't (it's just an ideea )

Thank you, and feel free to post suggestions about the point-awarding system or anything else, as this is an ideea that came to me just now, like Flash

Telling modern Internet users to stop whining is like telling them to stop breathing — it seems unrealistic and inhumane. Paul Lutus

fuser wrote:
Maybe, you can come out with a list of features the you think the application needs. All the other criterias are good, but another question is whether the application should be shown just in scblockedript (for the judges to compile) or a ready-made exe file?

cyber-guard wrote:
I really like the idea, there are some thing you would need to accomodate for in the rules though, like perl one liners

cyber-guard wrote:



How would you then judge the code, if you had just the exe, not to mention that this is security website (or so I thought), so running pre-compiled exe would be just stupid... Also what about interpreted languages, I mean yeah you can compile them to executables, but usually you have to deal with compatibility issues etc, and what's the point really.

Telling modern Internet users to stop whining is like telling them to stop breathing — it seems unrealistic and inhumane. Paul Lutus

COM wrote:

Or any other language one liners.
#include<code_that_does_whatever_needs_to_be_done>
There, C/C++ one liner.

fuser wrote:
Wow. Has it ever occurred to you that I can ask for BOTH source and exe? I just want to see how it runs (without the need of an interpreter running in the background) efficiently. But I get your concerns about platform compatibility, and since it can be quite a hassle for the coder itself to make a bin and an exe by themselves.

spyware wrote:
You want to run third-party unverified, untrusted code on your machines :'. Surely you jest.

Telling modern Internet users to stop whining is like telling them to stop breathing — it seems unrealistic and inhumane. Paul Lutus

Telling modern Internet users to stop whining is like telling them to stop breathing — it seems unrealistic and inhumane. Paul Lutus

MoshBat wrote:

Or do them all one after the other, or even at the same time.

Telling modern Internet users to stop whining is like telling them to stop breathing — it seems unrealistic and inhumane. Paul Lutus

Telling modern Internet users to stop whining is like telling them to stop breathing — it seems unrealistic and inhumane. Paul Lutus

techb wrote:
I think just having the source would be good enough. Then who ever wants to test it, could compile it them selves.

Or, you pick a certain language for the challenge. New challenges could use a different language.

MoshBat wrote:

What of the judges participating? I know, I know, they could easily cheat, but there are ways of checking.
And what of the testing environments? I myself have a quad core, but other judges/testers may not, programs optimised for multi-threading would be at an advantage on my machine, but not necessarily on others.
Platform may be important, too. For example, if a program was designed for use on a Windows 32 bit machine, it could be problematic on a Linux platform, and switching to a Windows OS may mean it runs slower than on Linux/Windows 64bit. We should probably establish an OS and architecture to use.
For speed tests, how many times should they be run to gain an average? Depending on the number of submissions and competitions, I'm willing to run speed tests for every competition multiple times (at least 100, but I don't have a problem with going into the 1000's), if a competition requires so.

One more thing: Assuming multiple languages, judges should specify a preference or strongest language. e.g, judge #1 is best at Perl, so send all the Perl ones their way for examination.

I should probably hit you up on an IM to discuss this.